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Mel Siff:
<If one could Press a heavy load, then one could easily jerk at least that
same amount and usually about 20kg more, so that many big pressers could
defeat a lifter who had a good snatch, but a weak jerk.>
A member wrote:
<<Not necessarily, in my humble opinion. A jerk and the press aren’t that
closely related as they seem to be.
Obviously if your press is larger, so is your jerk. But superior technique is
a must for a big jerk. My current 1RM press is 65 kilos and my 1RM jerk is
75. Obviously technique has a lot to do with it. I have a relatively strong
press considering my experience in weightlifting but as you can see, the jerk
is a lot about technique and agility in the legs. As an example is a lifter
in the gym where I train who has a 80 kilo press for 2-3 reps and has a max
jerk of 135 kilos. His massive load in the jerk comes from technique.>>
Mel Siff:
*** Note that I stated “usually”, not “always”. My remark was based on many
years of competitive and refereeing experience with the Press. And to back
this up, here are some randomly chosen Presses and C&Js of a few top lifters
from the good old Pressing days up to 1972: Read more…
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Here is some more feedback from various experts on weightlifting pulling
style (some names have temporarily been withheld until such time that the
persons concerned join our list):
1. This letter was sent to me by one of the most famous Eastern European
lifters, a legendary world champion and one of the few in the world who ever
managed to snatch twice bodyweight in the heavier divisions:
The topic of the week [on the weightlifting pull] was very interesting to me.
I do have only one problem with the flatfooted pull. As they say, “the
flatfooted pull will give you flatfooted results”. We certainly don’t want to
get that. We do know for a fact that the lifters are trying their best to get
to fully extended position before get under the bar. I do not see it
happening, by staying on your heels. Another small detail – if you go to an Read more…
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For those who may not yet have studied some photographs of the flatfooted and
plantarflexed pulling styles as used by some of the world’s top lifters, go
to the following files in our Supertraining Files section:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Supertraining/files/Pulls1.jpg
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Supertraining/files/Pulls2.jpg
It was written:
> Also pulling is not as big a problem as other matters of technique,
> such as the jerk. Although clean and jerk performances have fallen
> since the 1980s, there are two two snatch records that have exceeded
> the old world records and lifters on average seem to have a higher
> snatch: C&J ration than before. As for the C&J, it is rare to see a
> lifter fail to rack the bar so the pull is rarely the limiting factor
> in the C&J.
Mel Siff:
> [The pull is a crucial aspect of lifting, especially in the snatch, since
> it decrees where and when you are able to drop under the bar to
> catch it and stabilise most efficiently. One cannot compare the lifts today Read more…
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Box Squats and Exoskeletons
A member wrote wrote:
< …..I think this BOX SQUAT exploration is interesting and assume (excuse
the pun if you see it) that most have not analyzed it completely.
There are many reasons that those who use this squat are able to handle such
enormous weights. I mentioned that I thought the action/reaction sequence of
the compression and expansion of the hams and gluteals against the unyielding
surface of the box was more of a factor than most perceived at the very start
of the action forwards and upwards.>
Dr Mel Siff: You may recall that we both discussed this issue some months ago on this
list, when I also stressed that the contact between adjacent soft tissue
surfaces can play a useful proprioceptive facilitation role. The box squatting Read more…
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All too often the deadlift and clean pull are regarded as much the same
exercise, with the consequence that those who teach one or the other often
offer inappropriate advice. Thus clean pull is regarded as some sort of
deadlift with a shrug, while the deadlift is regarded as a clean pull without
a shrug and done with an alternate hand grip. This constitutes a serious
oversimplification of the mechanics of the two lifts.
Our recent discussion of the mechanics of the weightlifting pull is directly
relevant in this regard, because the flatfooted pulling style would appear to
be much more similar to the deadlift pull. In deadlifting it is always Read more…
